Showing posts with label Aamir. Show all posts
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Saturday, October 30, 2010

Answer to Aamir. 2

Hi Aamir,

This is to answer your second comment.

1. If you ever visit Israel or what is called today the Palestinian territories, you will find places that are either 2000 years old or 100 years old. Not much in the middle. Guess why.
In the middle of the 19ht century there were about 250K people living where today is Israel, Palestinian territories and Jordan. Not the amounts you see there today. The reason it grew so much is because of Immigration, not only on the Jewish side but mainly on the Arab side.  A lot of simple employees that came to work on the rail roads built by the Turks in the begining of the 20th century and thereafter when the British mandate came.
There was no "Palestinian" identity till the 60s of the 20th century. In fact , major leaders withing the Arab community that today is called Palestinian said again and again that there is no such thing Palestinian people and that it's a Zionist invention. Read Shukeiri's words (He was the first head of the PLO, before Arafat.)

The Bible, besides being a religious script that is accepted by the majority of the believers in this world is also a Historic documents that it's chronological stories were confirmed time and time again. I was very embarrassed not once when I was present in conferences where Muslim leaders told the audience that there is no proof that Jews ever lived in Israel in the far past. That there is no proof of the temple there. The thing is that educated people like you and me knows its rubbish. but most of Muslims will sit there and drink the "wisdom" coming from that authority Cleric in thirst.
3. Jews were displaces by Romans about 1900 years ago, what does it matter if it wasn't by Arabs if Arabs now are robing the Jewish small piece of land. Take the following example to emphasize my point:
John stole Mustafa's cow and then Mathew came and killed John and took the cow from him.
Mustafa still has the right on his cow, regardless to who is the one hold it now, regardless to who is stronger.
No matter how you turn it. No one in far or close history has rights on that piece of land more than the Jews.
4. All you said about replacing people is not true. People were replaces throughout history and it brought more peace and quite. Look at the population exchange between Turks and Greeks, Between German and Polish, between Pakistan and India and many other places. Either way, we are not talking about huge quantities of people or case of people with no land. The Jews has no country of their own to go to. The Arabs has 21 of them. Look above on the map.
5.I don't know where you get your history but this is all wrong.
Let's start with the fact that most Arabs that left Israel during the 48 war did it because their leaders instructed them to do so, not because of the Zionists.
The Zionist leadership accepted a plan to share the land between the Jordan revere and the Mediterranean see between the Arabs and the Jews but the Arabs said no to it and opened a war on the week community of Jews, holocaust survivors that lived in Israel. Those are facts.
Arabs concord some Jewish villages and slaughtered all the Jews that were there (See Gush Etsion, Yad Mordekhay, Tel Hay and more).
6.Israel was not the aggressor in 67. It was the Arabs. Israel then took over land that was always through History Jewish land. It is called  Judea and Samaria. Guess where the word Jewish came from? (Answer: Judea)
The settlement that were built on this small piece of land are just rebuilding of old Jewish villages that were there before.
7.In the Palestinian deceleration of goals, till now, there is the goal of establishing one Arab country all over Israel.
Almost no Arab county is willing to recognize Israel as the land of the Jewish people. Israel is recognizing all the Arab countries as Arab countries. Who is the one who doesn't want to progress to peace here?
If Arabs really want to solve this conflict. The territorial argument shouldn't even be on the table. Look at the map above. Most of the land you see in the Arabic countries that "Support" so much the Palestinian cause are empty. Why can't each give some land to the "poor Palestinian" or compensate Israel for land it will give away? It will not matter to those countries at all. But this is not a territorial dispute. It's all about clearing the middle east from the Jews. Let's admit it.


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