The Qur'an and Israel

The Quran has a lot to say about Jew and Israel.


The following Surah, (17, 104) talked about the promiss to gother all the Jews back to Israel.

امبارح فيه مذيعة طلعت في التلفزيون بتقول ان الفيس بوك عاملاه المخابرات الامريكية وإن الصور حتى لو حذفناها بتطلع عند الادارة العليا لشركة فيس بوك وإنهم عايزين يضربوا مصر .. أي بتنجان .. فشباب الفيس بوك قرروا يعملوا فيديو تعبيري!

If you can read the said above from the Qur'an, you get either very confused or a religious Muslim Zionist.

The translations:

And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds.

Muhsin Khan

And (remember) when Musa (Moses) said to his people: "O my people! Remember the Favour of Allah to you, when He made Prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns, in the past)."

And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember the favor of Allah upon you when He appointed among you prophets and made you possessors and gave you that which He had not given anyone among the worlds.

Muhsin Khan

And (remember) when Musa (Moses) said to his people: "O my people! Remember the Favour of Allah to you, when He made Prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns, in the past)."

The rights on the land- by birth?

Jews and Muslims claim their right on the holy-land.
Jews base their right on historical facts that has no serious scholars to doubt about their ancestor's origin and the continuance of the Jewish settlement since. The fact that all three Monotheistic religions confirms it in the historic evidence only makes this claim more evident.

Muslims trust the fact that there are a lot of Muslims in the Middle-East and what seems to be a continuance of Muslim/Arab habitat in the area since the Profit Mohammed, peace be upon him, about one thousand and three hundred years ago.

The funny thing is that most Jews are not posing any claim for exclusive ownership on the holy-land although they have the military power to impose one while the Arabs want a "Jew-free Palestine". Surely with no access to the holy places.

Another interesting note is the historic and anthropological fact that till about 1860, the holly-land was a bare land with barely any people living in it. Most of the areas of the Galilee and north of Jerusalem were Aramaic speakers and Samaritans that either converted to Islam later or kicked out of the place.
With the new opportunities opened up in the area, waves of simple employees immigrated from other Arab countries and created what today we call "The Palestinian People."

Either way, any claim of those newly coming immigrants for any territorial demands on Israeli land will be properly answered with a Jewish claim over land that was inhabitant by Jews centuries before any Arabic speaker was present.

An old Jew who came to Israel from Iraq once told me that his family was in Iraq since Babylonian times. Two Thousand Five Hundred years ago (!!!). Much earlier than any of the Arab speaking Jahilia even were known anywhere.

How strong any "Palestinian" claim on the land of Israel is?
about 5% as strong as this old Babylonian Jew on Bghdadi land.

And please correct me if I am wrong.. I dare you.

Jerusalem was never Muslim

Yes, There were Muslims in El-Quds but there were also Greek, Christians, Romans and others.
For the Jews it was always the main city of yearning and prayer. For us it was, if to be honest only another conquest.

I believe that it should be open to all religions exactly as much as I believe the great Mosques of Mecca and the chapels of the holly city of Vatican needs to be open other religions.
Jews pray facing Jerusalem.
Muslims, while during early times might have prayed towards Jerusalem, now face Mecca.
Even when we were facing Jerusalem it was most likely because of practices taken from Jewish tribes that influenced our religion tremendously.

While Jerusalem is mentioned in the Thowrah hundreds of times, very clearly and vividly, it is not mentioned even once in the Holly Qur'an. Some will say that I didn't understand that it was implied there but I tell them, why to imply a place that has such a significance in our faith?

Never in History was Jerusalem more open to so many people with different faiths like it is today under Israeli control. I can see why this bother's some Muslims, they have no value in having other than Muslims (Usually also from the same branch only) to be able to access Jerusalem.

I just don't understand how most of the world don't see the obvious.

Obama's presure on Israel- Mistake!

I don't need to elaborate on the thirst in serious and constructive peace negotiations in the Middle East, Both sides have enough disagreements and conditions to even agree to meet and it almost happened just to be again installed by a stupid unrealistic demand posed by Obama's administration to cease completely Jewish settlement of part of Jerusalem.

This demand was never a condition and made the fragile Palestinian authority look like an bunch of traitor is they didn't add that to their list of demands before meeting with the Zionists.

Never was that a condition and quite honestly, I can't see any Zionist leader that would have ever thought of such restriction to be imposed one sided like that on the 3,000 years old capital of the Jewish nation.

Well, Obama, We might need your help, but let's start with not putting more hurdles on the plenty we have.